Saturday, April 19, 2008

Sketching on Notes (not really)

So conscience is something that we apply to our daily lives in order to make decisions about what is "right" and "wrong." This varies from person to person and from a group of people to another. However, it needs to be guided, in a way. People need to be given choices to begin with, so that their conscience can have something to decide and therefore define their boundaries, I guess. A society, ideally, would provide these choices. Although there are certain deep, unshakable (mm not the word I wanted, but oh well) guidelines that I think all humans "start out" with, so to speak, like the feeling you get when you witness something "bad" happening. Guilt, apprehension, fear, embarressment... - I think we all have (or had at one time) these gut feelings, but unfortunately, a lot of time some or all of these gut feelings that are supposed to guide us are supressed or conditioned to be ignored. Especially now, we are so freely exposed to so many things considered (or used to be considered) taboo and at such a young age, too. Doesn't this dull whatever reacts to these things? The gut feelings are there and are supposed to be shocking so that they make us STOP and go, "wait a minute, woah. I don't think I'm supposed to feel this way." But these feelings are dulled because of overuse. Alright, interesting/obvious point I guess, but let's get back on track.
Is society in general causing this "dulling", or does it have more to do with the leaders (I realize that I failed to get back on track)? Well, aren't the leaders from the society and of the society? In America, the president has to have been born here to even be considered a candidate, in countries governed by the monarchy this also is true because obviously, the ruler is a descendant of a long line of people that have lived and died in that country, even in totalitarian governments the ruler that rises up is from the country or at least shares the citizens' sentiments (at least to begin with). I guess the exception in this case would be colonies owned by other countries, but those are often considered an extension of the leader's country or just fail because the natives revolt against that foreign leader... So I guess I'm coming back to the point that leaders must have the same general interests (personal, economical, political) as most of the population they lead. So is it really a question of "who has more power" over the society's conscience? Because ideally, the leader should have a similar conscience as the rest of the society, or else the civilization falls apart - even in Lord of the Flies, many of the boys had the same desires as Jack, no matter how "bad" they may have been. That's why he had so much power. Because they wanted to have fun, and he wanted to have fun, and then he made it happen for everyone. Yay. If Jack's tribe had had enough people like Samanderic who cringed at hunting humans and such, they probably wouldn't have "had to" join and probably could've stayed with Ralph. AND, even if a bunch of dissenters had joined, it still wouldn't have worked, because people get sick of doing things they hate after a while. They would've revolted against Jack. Unless I guess they changed... Okay, well that still would make sense, because then, the leader and followers have the same general desire!!! I feel like I'm on to something but at the same time feeling really lost, like way out in the middle of nowhere and jumping up and down, like "I get it! I get it!" and then, "wait, what? What is this place??" Hmm. Maybe I should outline.

Started out with:
Conscience is innate, but varies. It can also be changed.
Ended up:
  • Leaders and their followers must have similar interests and therefore conscience.
  • They usually do, unless it's a society tick-tocking, about to fall apart anyways.
  • The conscience of each civilization is different, like different individuals want different things.
  • The gut feelings people have (er... start out with) are all the same at first, but change according to experiences.

Geez I am SO CONFUSEd. I feel like I'm just putting certain meanings to words that don't actually mean that meaning and repeating the same things over and over again, like meaning meaning meaning. HELP- IS ANYONE THERE?

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hey, I don't know if this will help, but it's kinda what I was thinking when I read your last entry. Granted I didn't read all the entries before it so I might be way off based but here goes. You had like four points, two of which were these:

1.) Leaders and their followers must have similar interests and therefore conscience.
2.) They usually do, unless it's a society tick-tocking, about to fall apart anyways.

In relation to the United States #1has not been true on many occasions (Vietnam war, Civil War, War in Iraq, etc.)

Yet despite these many instances where #1 hasn't been true, #2 hasn't been true either. After the vietnam war, America didn't fall apart. The same goes with the Civil War. How do you reconcile the history of the United States with what you stated in #1 and #2?

I don't know what direction you're planning on going or what prompt you're planning on doing, but an interesting place you could head is with relation to #2 and America now. America is extremely divided. In fact, we haven't been this divided in many, many years. Does that mean, as you've said, that we're falling apart? Some politicians believe so.

Hope this helps. If not, if not ignore this post. Or use it to get more pages when you're graded for sketching.

Danny

ladisonmee said...

no, remember during the vietnam war (as well as this one), there was the silent majority.